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Royalty Discussions
2003-10-18 22:10:27 UTC
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Buna!

Here is yet another site to bring sincere discussions regarding the
Romanian Monarchy with an emphasis on the Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen
family:

http://www.princessofromania.com/cgi-bin/teemz/teemz.cgi

Is there interest out there in the Monarchy in Romania?

(please, no sarcasm ;)
Larry Bernard
2003-10-19 03:23:19 UTC
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Buna!
Here is yet another site to bring sincere discussions regarding the
Romanian Monarchy with an emphasis on the Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen
http://www.princessofromania.com/cgi-bin/teemz/teemz.cgi
Is there interest out there in the Monarchy in Romania?
(please, no sarcasm ;)
Hey if i was going to be intrested in a fraudelent Romanian claiment i would
be intrested in Prince Paul

Hell, I met him.. Went through my scottish rite class with him
Bogdan Giusca
2003-10-19 17:48:33 UTC
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http://www.princessofromania.com/cgi-bin/teemz/teemz.cgi
Is there interest out there in the Monarchy in Romania?
(please, no sarcasm ;)
Hey if i was going to be intrested in a fraudelent Romanian
claiment i would be intrested in Prince Paul
Hell, I met him..
He run for President of Romania three years ago, although he barely
spoke Romanian. (famous for his quote "sunt un prins republiken sute
la sute")

Obviously, he got zero point something percent.
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Larry Bernard
2003-10-19 18:43:22 UTC
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Post by Larry Bernard
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http://www.princessofromania.com/cgi-bin/teemz/teemz.cgi
Is there interest out there in the Monarchy in Romania?
(please, no sarcasm ;)
Hey if i was going to be intrested in a fraudelent Romanian
claiment i would be intrested in Prince Paul
Hell, I met him..
He run for President of Romania three years ago, although he barely
spoke Romanian. (famous for his quote "sunt un prins republiken sute
la sute")
Obviously, he got zero point something percent.
yeah, It was fun picking apart which jesuit schools taught him his english..
a friend of mine and i did it ;-)
Louis Epstein
2003-10-20 02:09:32 UTC
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In alt.talk.royalty Larry Bernard <***@comcast.net> wrote:

: "Royalty Discussions" <***@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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:> Buna!
:>
:> Here is yet another site to bring sincere discussions regarding the
:> Romanian Monarchy with an emphasis on the Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen
:> family:
:>
:> http://www.princessofromania.com/cgi-bin/teemz/teemz.cgi
:>
:> Is there interest out there in the Monarchy in Romania?
:>
:> (please, no sarcasm ;)

: Hey if i was going to be intrested in a fraudelent Romanian claiment i
: would be intrested in Prince Paul

I don't think Miss Visconte is properly categorized with those
who have actual traced descents from actual Kings of Romania.

: Hell, I met him.. Went through my scottish rite class with him

What degree?

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Larry Bernard
2003-10-20 03:38:50 UTC
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Post by Louis Epstein
I don't think Miss Visconte is properly categorized with those
who have actual traced descents from actual Kings of Romania.
Well.. :-) Ok i have to go with you there
Post by Louis Epstein
: Hell, I met him.. Went through my scottish rite class with him
What degree?
Well, Here stateside you get all the scottish rite degree's 4-32* in one or
two days

He was in the same class as I and a friend of mine. Seems to be a really
nice guy, very reserved.

he was listed in our group photo as "Paul P Romania"

he was brought into the class by a German Mason who uses the United States
Masonic community to help get the lodge over into the former communist
block..

But Prince Paul is a Master Mason of Hillsbourgh lodge in Tampa Florida so
his joining the valley of tampa makes sense i guess in a round about way

I actually thought he would get nominated for the class orator, but he
didn'ti was nominated and no one else took the part

I thought running against a European Prince in an election would be fun ;-)
but i was denied that kind of fun

If some of the conversations i heard were correct the supreme council of
Romania had some issues with Prince Paul Joining... but thats stuff that
ended up getting talked about behind close doors and i heard second/third
hand gossip about

He was the canidate for one of the rose croix degree's ( forgot which
one...)

Are you a Mason by chance Louis? >
Post by Louis Epstein
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Louis Epstein
2003-10-20 04:22:44 UTC
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In alt.talk.royalty Larry Bernard <***@comcast.net> wrote:

:>
:> I don't think Miss Visconte is properly categorized with those
:> who have actual traced descents from actual Kings of Romania.

: Well.. :-) Ok i have to go with you there

:>
:> : Hell, I met him.. Went through my scottish rite class with him
:>
:> What degree?


: Well, Here stateside you get all the scottish rite degree's 4-32* in one or
: two days

I know that does happen,not sure if it's invariable?

The notation that a Mason can go from 3rd to 32nd in a weekend
is something I learned from a Catholic Encyclopedia,and I have
to say it reflects unfavorably on the meaningfulness of the
Degrees.

: He was in the same class as I and a friend of mine. Seems to be a really
: nice guy, very reserved.

: he was listed in our group photo as "Paul P Romania"

: he was brought into the class by a German Mason who uses the United States
: Masonic community to help get the lodge over into the former communist
: block..

: But Prince Paul is a Master Mason of Hillsbourgh lodge in Tampa Florida so
: his joining the valley of tampa makes sense i guess in a round about way

: I actually thought he would get nominated for the class orator, but he
: didn'ti was nominated and no one else took the part

: I thought running against a European Prince in an election would be fun ;-)
: but i was denied that kind of fun

: If some of the conversations i heard were correct the supreme council of
: Romania had some issues with Prince Paul Joining... but thats stuff that
: ended up getting talked about behind close doors and i heard second/third
: hand gossip about

: He was the canidate for one of the rose croix degree's ( forgot which
: one...)

: Are you a Mason by chance Louis? >

Like Catholic bishops,Mormon apostles,United States judges,
British peers,and captains of industry,Masons are a group
whose hierarchy I assiduously study from the outside,but am
not a member of.:)

:> -=-=-
:> The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
:> at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.
Larry Bernard
2003-10-20 04:48:47 UTC
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Post by Louis Epstein
The notation that a Mason can go from 3rd to 32nd in a weekend
is something I learned from a Catholic Encyclopedia,and I have
to say it reflects unfavorably on the meaningfulness of the
Degrees.
not in florida

in florida it would take two seperate weekends
Post by Louis Epstein
Like Catholic bishops,Mormon apostles,United States judges,
British peers,and captains of industry,Masons are a group
whose hierarchy I assiduously study from the outside,but am
not a member of.:)
ahhhh....

:-)

well IIRC Brother Paul did recive his degree's in a one day class format ( i
would actually have to check)

i however did not ;-)
Post by Louis Epstein
:> -=-=-
:> The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
:> at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.
Louis Epstein
2003-10-20 17:19:17 UTC
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In alt.talk.royalty Larry Bernard <***@comcast.net> wrote:


:> The notation that a Mason can go from 3rd to 32nd in a weekend
:> is something I learned from a Catholic Encyclopedia,and I have
:> to say it reflects unfavorably on the meaningfulness of the
:> Degrees.
:>

: not in florida

: in florida it would take two seperate weekends

:> Like Catholic bishops,Mormon apostles,United States judges,
:> British peers,and captains of industry,Masons are a group
:> whose hierarchy I assiduously study from the outside,but am
:> not a member of.:)

: ahhhh....

: :-)

: well IIRC Brother Paul did recive his degree's in a one day class format ( i
: would actually have to check)

: i however did not ;-)

So now you have to serve and wait among your fellow
Sublime Princes of the Royal Secret to see if you
are ever made a Sovereign Grand Inspector General.
(I wonder if the modern health regulations have
barred the traditional plunging of hands into liquid
mercury during the initiation).

:> :> -=-=-
:> :> The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
:> :> at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.
:>
Larry Bernard
2003-10-21 02:02:26 UTC
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Post by Louis Epstein
So now you have to serve and wait among your fellow
Sublime Princes of the Royal Secret to see if you
are ever made a Sovereign Grand Inspector General.
(I wonder if the modern health regulations have
barred the traditional plunging of hands into liquid
mercury during the initiation).
hehe Well I know the current SGIG and, if he is the rule ( which he seems to
be) i would have to become grand master of masons of florida to hold the job
*IF* that happens then we will see ;-)
Louis Epstein
2003-10-22 03:58:12 UTC
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In alt.talk.royalty Larry Bernard <***@comcast.net> wrote:

:> So now you have to serve and wait among your fellow
:> Sublime Princes of the Royal Secret to see if you
:> are ever made a Sovereign Grand Inspector General.
:> (I wonder if the modern health regulations have
:> barred the traditional plunging of hands into liquid
:> mercury during the initiation).

: hehe Well I know the current SGIG and, if he is the rule ( which he seems
: to be) i would have to become grand master of masons of florida to hold the
: job *IF* that happens then we will see ;-)

Is there one 33rd degree for each state in the Council,then?

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The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.
Larry Bernard
2003-10-22 10:48:06 UTC
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Post by Louis Epstein
: hehe Well I know the current SGIG and, if he is the rule ( which he seems
: to be) i would have to become grand master of masons of florida to hold the
: job *IF* that happens then we will see ;-)
Is there one 33rd degree for each state in the Council,then?
as i understand yes, and at least three of them that i am aware of are all
Past Grand Masters

Louis Epstein
2003-10-19 04:18:21 UTC
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In alt.talk.royalty Royalty Discussions <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
: Buna!

: Here is yet another site to bring sincere discussions regarding the
: Romanian Monarchy with an emphasis on the Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen
: family:

: http://www.princessofromania.com/cgi-bin/teemz/teemz.cgi

: Is there interest out there in the Monarchy in Romania?

: (please, no sarcasm ;)

Polite reminders that the Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen
family and descendants with relevance to the Romanian
Monarchy have never included an "Ericka Ashley Visconte"
are not "sarcasm",but scholarship.

Have you ever consulted a bona fide genealogy?
(Please take that question sincerely,Mr. Rose.)

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The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.
Lisa Davidson
2003-10-19 04:53:31 UTC
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Mr. Rose: You request no sarcasm. Very well, I find it offensive that
someone such as yourself shows such utter disrespect for the real royal
family of Romania. The person you are promoting is completely unknown to
the actual Romanian royal family. Therefore, I see no reason for you to
continue to pollute this board with your drivel. There, is that direct
enough for you?
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Buna!
Here is yet another site to bring sincere discussions regarding the
Romanian Monarchy with an emphasis on the Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen
http://www.princessofromania.com/cgi-bin/teemz/teemz.cgi
Is there interest out there in the Monarchy in Romania?
(please, no sarcasm ;)
Bogdan Giusca
2003-10-19 17:56:37 UTC
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Buna!
Here is yet another site to bring sincere discussions regarding the
Romanian Monarchy with an emphasis on the Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen
http://www.princessofromania.com/cgi-bin/teemz/teemz.cgi
Yeah, but what link there is between this "Ericka Visconte" and the
Romanian Monarchy ? I never heard of it and there is nowhere to be
seen on the site.
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Is there interest out there in the Monarchy in Romania?
Actually there is a moderate interest, but unlikely to restore
monarchy with a referendum.
--
http://ro.wikipedia.org - enciclopedia libera - in limba româna
A Tsar Is Born
2003-10-21 00:45:53 UTC
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Buna!
Here is yet another site to bring sincere discussions regarding the
Romanian Monarchy with an emphasis on the Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen
http://www.princessofromania.com/cgi-bin/teemz/teemz.cgi
Is there interest out there in the Monarchy in Romania?
(please, no sarcasm ;)
Precisely WHAT (and I would really like you to answer this -- no sarcasm)
does this girl have to do with the house of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen?

Jean Coeur de Lapin
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